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Macrovision CEO Offers to Help Apple Open FairPlay DRM

Macrovision is the latest company to jump on the open letter bandwagon with its response to the comments Apple CEO Steve Jobs made against digital rights management copy protection. CEO Fred Amoroso states he feels Mr. Jobs failed to look beyond the copy protection in music, and is offering the help of his company to turn FairPlay into a DRM technology every content provider can use.

As one of the biggest names in the copy protection market, Macrovision is probably in one of the best positions to understand how to implement DRM, and also in a position to want that technology to remain relevant. The copy protection scheme Macrovision offers can be found in music, movies, video games, and computer applications.

One of the benefits of DRM, according to Mr. Amoroso, is that it increases instead of decreases the value of the content consumers are buying.

"DRM is uniquely suitable for metering usage rights, so that consumers who don't want to own content, such as a movie, can 'rent' it," he said. "Similarly, consumers who want to consume content on only a single device can pay less than those who want to use it across all of their entertainment areas... Abandoning DRM now will unnecessarily doom all consumers to a 'one size fits all' situation that will increase costs for many of them."

He also claimed that without DRM to keep users from stealing content, the music and movie industry would pull their media from the market. In effect, he is saying that the entertainment industry sees all consumers as criminals out to steal music and movies.

Mr. Jobs made expressed his views against digital rights management in an open letter posted on the Apple Web site on February 6. In the letter, he called DRM ineffectual, and stated that Apple would remove the copy protection in songs and videos sold at the iTunes Store if the recording industry would agree.

The letter from Mr. Jobs has earned responses from several companies. Some, including Yahoo! have voiced support for dropping DRM. Others, including Microsoft and the RIAA are opposed to removing the technology.

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Well, Job's open letter was titled "Thoughts on MUSIC", wasn't it? Sheesh.

The way I see it, the only reason Macromedia jumped into the fray is because Apple's position on DRM threatens their reson for existing.

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Bosco said:

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He also claimed that without DRM to keep users from stealing content, the music and movie industry would pull their media from the market. In effect, he is saying that the entertainment industry sees all consumers as criminals out to steal music and movies.

This editorializing (2nd sentence) is so tiresome. No content producer that has sold a copy of their music/movie/software/etc. sees "all consumers as criminals". What they do see however, is the ability of a handful) of consumers to use popular Internet mechanisms to illegally distribute their work to thousands or millions. Ironically, Macrovision technology is mostly technically and market targeted at retarding illicit copying among friends (small darknets) rather than limiting distribution over file sharing networks.

Since there's no link to a source article, I can't judge how misinterpreted the first sentence is. Something to keep in mind though... DRM is not about enforcing any moral anti-stealing agenda. If any prong of IP enforcement is intended to do that, it's education. DRM is 100% about increasing sales. It is expensive to deploy, obviously has significant political downside. If it didn't result in net positive returns to content owners, they wouldn't bother. Perhaps that what Steve Jobs is suggesting to the labels. Software developers figured this whole DRM in the infancy of the Internet, and it still holds true today... A code enforced restriction on free use is an opportunity for a consumer to buy. Unlockable demos, etc. More of the right opportunities means more buyers.

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luomat said:

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Of course they made this offer. In fact I suspect the very idea of getting their hands onto iTunes filled the Macrovision boardroom with wood. And I don't mean paneling.

Macrovision would simply cease to exist if DRM went away. They want you to believe DRM is good for you, even though it isn't.

My full response:

http://tj.tntluoma.com/thoughts/macrovision-jobs-at-stake

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Terrin said:

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First, Macrovision's existence relies on DRM. Second, people do not seem to get: Jobs did not say interoperability is not possible, he said Apple is not interested in licensing Fairplay to achieve it. Third, Macrovision's products stink, and often exclude Mac users (so much for interoperability).

Fourth, I feel no pity for content owners when people "steal" their content. Why? Because they are all thieves. Copyright protection in this Country used to be for 14 years. In addition, copyright holders would have to renew the copyright after I think seven years, or all the public gained the right to use it. This principle rewarded interested content owners a limited monopoly on their ideas, which often were based on other ideas, so that these ideas could eventually benefit the public by being placed in the public domain for all to use freely and build upon. Lobbyists, however, have talked Congress into rewarding copyrights for over a hundred years, and do not require renewal. That defeats the whole purpose of why the Founding Fathers included copyright protection in the Constitution.

So by "stealing" content, you are essentially claiming a right that should never have been taken from you. Also, let us face it, when you "steal" music, you are usually not hurting artists. Artists often make no money on the sale of their music, only on their performances. Artists make the least amount of money on digital downloads. Funny considering that is where the labels incur the least amount of cost.

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Terrin said:

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Sad but true, you could spend more time in jail for "stealing" a song, then if you shot a person dead.

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macslut said:

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Macrovision is a joke. They missed one of the most important points of Jobs' letter... That is that the DRM must after reaching some acceptable level of effectiveness, must not then be able to become permanently broken.

One might hate DRM and/or hate the restrictions of FairPlay, but Jobs is right in that because Apple controls it, it's *much* less likely to get openly hacked. (I'm talking pwned instead of the various work-arounds).

Of course Macrovision doesn't get this, thus Macrovision is a joke for pirates.

This is Macrovision telling Apple that they can make FairPlay both open and secure, but unfortunately for them, their resume has things like VHS, CD and DVD listed on it. All of which were copy protection failures.

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gslusher said:

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Well, Job's open letter was titled "Thoughts on MUSIC", wasn't it? Sheesh.

The way I see it, the only reason Macromedia jumped into the fray is because Apple's position on DRM threatens their reson for existing.

It's Macrovision, not Macromedia, now part of Adobe.

Macrovision was once noted for the copy protection stuff they put on commercial VHS tapes that often resulted in the tapes not playing very well on standard VCRs. I've known several people who bought "signal cleaner" (Macrovision-removing) boxes, not to copy commercial tapes, but to watch them without the picture tearing, flipping, or having to readjust the tracking every few minutes.

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Pull their media from the market? Wouldn't this eliminate said market and essentially be tantamount to shooting themselves in the foot? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Not all of us that enjoy digital media are fourteen year old video game worshipping iPod fanatics. As adult and yes, saavy consumers, an awful lot of 'the market' know when they are being bamboozled. This is insulting to my intelligence. I've watched commercial recordings of music go through so many evolutions. Maybe we should blame Thomas Edison, or perhaps the publishers of sheet music? One last thing: cds contain digital music files, geniuses. There has been digital music with no DRM for nigh on a quarter century now. If they stop signing crappy bands and remaking classic films and maybe they'll have a paying audience again.

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Rainy Day said:

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Bosco wrote:
This editorializing (2nd sentence) is so tiresome.

Only because you don’t agree with it.

Bosco wrote:
No content producer that has sold a copy of their music/movie/software/etc. sees “all consumers as criminals”. What they do see however, is the ability of a handful) of consumers to use popular Internet mechanisms to illegally distribute their work to thousands or millions.

No, they do see nearly all their customers as thieves. If they thought most were honest and would buy a legitimate copy, then the monetary loss to piracy would be minimal, probably less than the cost of the copy protection schemes. DRM exists solely because of a perceived need to coerce people into being “honest.”

Bosco wrote:
Ironically, Macrovision technology is mostly technically and market targeted at retarding illicit copying among friends (small darknets) rather than limiting distribution over file sharing networks.

Again, this makes no sense. If the content providers perceived this to be true, they would just write-off the loss and not bother with DRM.

Bosco wrote:
Something to keep in mind though... DRM is not about enforcing any moral anti-stealing agenda.… DRM is 100% about increasing sales. It is expensive to deploy, obviously has significant political downside. If it didn't result in net positive returns to content owners, they wouldn't bother.

Kind of twisted, tortured logic. Certainly in the customers’ mind there is no perceived added value of DRM, so it can’t increase sales that way. The only way DRM can increase sales is if it turns a would-be thief into a customer.

The assertion that if DRM didn’t increase sales, the content providers wouldn’t bother with it is spurious. The content providers have no way to measure the effectiveness of DRM unless they actually start selling DRM-free products. Right now they have been sold on the notion that it does increase sales. Macrovision is one of the chief peddlers of that idea and has a vested interest in perpetuating the myth.

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gslusher said:

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Terrin wrote:
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Sad but true, you could spend more time in jail for "stealing" a song, then if you shot a person dead.

Since we're pretending like we're attorneys, let's be more accurate. Can you provide some evidence that this remarkable assertion is correct?

About the only ways that I (not an attorney) can figure that it might happen would be if you "shot a person dead" in some justifiable way (e.g., self defense) or accidentally in a way that did not involve negligence (manslaughter).

As far as I know, in most cases, copyright infringement is a civil, rather than criminal matter. Stealing A (one) song would almost surely not result in any penalty at all.

Exaggeration and irrational scare tactics hurt, not help, your argument.

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Bosco said:

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Um Rainy Day, the content providers do sell plenty of content that is unencumbered by DRM or anti-copy technology. I don't know if you read Steve Jobs' recent open letter, but he alludes to how the major labels continue to sell most of their music unencumbered. It was a subtle point. I can understand how you might have missed it.

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Brutno said:

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As quoted in the article: "Similarly, consumers who want to consume content on only a single device can pay less than those who want to use it across all of their entertainment areas... Abandoning DRM now will unnecessarily doom all consumers to a 'one size fits all' situation that will increase costs for many of them."

A wonderfully spurious claim. I doubt the pricing differences that could emerge would be significant. Knowing the content providers I would venture that purchasing anything for use on just two devices would be more expensive than an unlimited license. Conversely...an unlimited license would significantly increase in price (as compared to today) and would therefore promote more pirating. The producers will never adjust their pricing models such that revenue could decrease - it's just not going to happen.

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