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RIM Takes on iPhone with New BlackBerry

RIM's new BlackBerry 8820 is the company's first smartphone with Wi-FI built in -- a feature that's also found on Apple's iPhone. But the BlackBerry goes one step further by including the ability to switch voice calls between the standard cellular and Wi-Fi networks.

The 8820 also sports a GPS, which is missing from the iPhone, as is the BlackBerry's voice dialing feature. While it appears that Apple won't be able to add GPS functionality to the current model iPhone, it can add in other features like voice dialing through software updates.

Like the iPhone, the BlackBerry includes email support, text messaging, and Web browsing.


The BlackBerry 8820

RIM's latest BlackBerry, although designed to entice new users into the smartphone market, underscores consumer desire for more sophisticated portable communication devices. The real problem for companies like RIM, however, may be in offering buyers products that satisfy business users and average consumers as well.

Frenzied interest in the iPhone both before and after the product was launched showed that consumers not only want all-in-one communication devices, but they also want user friendly interfaces for accessing those features. By and large, consumers have found cell phone interfaces to be cumbersome and confusing, and as a result many leave most phone features untouched.

Apple's combination iPod and smartphone has been seen by many as the first real user-friendly product for this market, and now sets the standard for other manufacturers to hit. How well the 8820 is received by consumers has yet to be seen, but if the initial response to the iPhone is any indication, RIM has its work cut out for it.

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I can tell you right now that as a non-geek, I wouldn't touch that hideous thing, let alone shell out for one. The iPhone does all of this without looking like an overgrown scientific calculator, and is so easy to use.

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Biff said:

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I can tell you right now that as a non-geek, I wouldn't touch that hideous thing, let alone shell out for one. The iPhone does all of this without looking like an overgrown scientific calculator, and is so easy to use.
Non-geek... hm... who wants to break the bad news to this guy?

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Sadly, you are wrong. The iPhone does next to nothing most other phones can do. Granted, the NEW features Apple brings are unstoppable - however - the iPhone lacks in MANY ways (note: I'm an Apple geek)

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Tiger said:

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So much info, so little substance. I did a quick search of stories about this device, from PCWorld to Endgadget (who actually had their hands on one).

Not a one has mentioned price yet. Not even RIM.

http://www.rim.com/news/press/2007/pr-17_07_2007-01.shtml

So, is it for real, or is it vaporware? Can it stem the tide of switchers to the BlackJack?

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If you're posting to an article about a brand new Blackberry on a website for Apple and Macintosh news, chances are, you're already a geek...

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Sir Harry Flashman said:

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Tiger wrote:
So much info, so little substance. I did a quick search of stories about this device, from PCWorld to Endgadget (who actually had their hands on one).

Not a one has mentioned price yet. Not even RIM.

http://www.rim.com/news/press/2007/pr-17_07_2007-01.shtml

So, is it for real, or is it vaporware? Can it stem the tide of switchers to the BlackJack?

The price will probably be comparable to their existing products. $400 something new, or a $200 with a 2 year contract, plus the cost of service.

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People keep saying that Apple cannot add in GPS to the current model, but if you look in the settings--general--legal on the iPhone it has a paragraphc about halfway down that says "This information may reveal your actual location, such as GPS data," My guess is they are figuring out how to use GPS.

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If you're posting to an article about a brand new Blackberry on a website for Apple and Macintosh news, chances are, you're already a geek...

Fair enough, but have any of you guys used the iPhone? I got into the Mac out of necessity-my particular field moved over to digital and I therefore learned all that I could. Prior to 1999, I'd never had a PC of any kind; the Mac is the only computer I've ever owned. Since that time, I've become more and more interested in keeping up, hence my presence here.

I don't have need of a 'real' smart phone, and the extras the iPhone brings to the plate are actually quite useful, without excess features I'd never touch anyway. Perhaps I'm in a particular user niche in that regard. I know many people may need more from their chosen device, but looking at other phones in same price range, I stand by my earlier comment. I highly recommend giving the iPhone a try if you haven't yet. I think this all speaks volumes about Apple, that someone like me could be excited about this stuff, and is spreading the word to others who are similar. Thanks for listening.

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Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
If you're posting to an article about a brand new Blackberry on a website for Apple and Macintosh news, chances are, you're already a geek...

Fair enough, but have any of you guys used the iPhone? I got into the Mac out of necessity-my particular field moved over to digital and I therefore learned all that I could. Prior to 1999, I'd never had a PC of any kind; the Mac is the only computer I've ever owned. Since that time, I've become more and more interested in keeping up, hence my presence here.

So what is your field?

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I don't have need of a 'real' smart phone,

Just what do you think constitutes a 'real' smart phone?

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and the extras the iPhone brings to the plate are actually quite useful, without excess features I'd never touch anyway.

And what excess features would you never touch?

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Perhaps I'm in a particular user niche in that regard. I know many people may need more from their chosen device, but looking at other phones in same price range, I stand by my earlier comment.

And what price range is that?

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I highly recommend giving the iPhone a try if you haven't yet. I think this all speaks volumes about Apple, that someone like me could be excited about this stuff, and is spreading the word to others who are similar. Thanks for listening.

And just what kind of person are you that you being excited should be significant?

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daemon wrote:
And just what kind of person are you that you being excited should be significant?

Not a resident troll like you?

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daemon said:

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Not a resident troll like you?

Nice zinger.

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