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iPhone 1.1.1 One Step Closer to Jailbreak

Tuesday, October 9th, 2007 at 7:40 AM - by

Apple's iPhone 1.1.1 is one step closer to opening up for third party apps now that the iPhone Dev Team has managed to implement a jailbreak on the smart phone. The unsupported hack allows only a subset of non-Apple applications to run, but developers are already hard at work expanding the list of supported apps, according to The Unofficial Apple Weblog.

"Jailbreaking" is a process to essentially unlock an iPhone, and now the iPod touch, so that third party applications can be added to the device. Apple officially supports Web-based applications on the iPhone and iPod touch, however it has gone to great lengths to lock out the ability to install applications directly on the handheld devices.

While jailbreaking works on iPhone 1.0.2, the 1.1.1 software update "re-jailed" hacked phones and disabled all third party applications that had been installed. The update may have added several new features to the combination iPod and smart phone, but it also blocked users from taking advantage of the growing list of useful, but unsupported, applications.

The iPhone 1.1.1 jailbreak is certainly not ready for prime time yet, but it is a step in the right direction. For now, only a handful of third party apps are running, and many of the applications compiled for iPhone 1.0.2 will likely have to be reworked to function with the updated software.

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Tiger said:

member since 17 Jun 2003 with 1018 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:35 am

Jailbreak. Next thing you know, you'll be advocating counterfeiting. It's nothing more than stealing.

Same as if I repost this column with my byline on it.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:07 am

Tiger wrote:
Jailbreak. Next thing you know, you'll be advocating counterfeiting. It's nothing more than stealing.

Same as if I repost this column with my byline on it.

stealing from who?

myself?

it's my phone. i paid for it. if i want to open it up and modify it or use it for a doorstop i paid for the priviledge.

just to define terms, to qualify for stealing you have to take something from someone (who rightfully owns it) without compensation. i think my $600 and 2 yr att contract covers me on that point.

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Intruder said:

member since 07 Jul 2004 with 3149 posts, TMO Mac Specialist, send him a message or view his profile

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:11 am

Anonymous wrote:

stealing from who?

myself?

it's my phone. i paid for it. if i want to open it up and modify it or use it for a doorstop i paid for the priviledge.

just to define terms, to qualify for stealing you have to take something from someone (who rightfully owns it) without compensation. i think my $600 and 2 yr att contract covers me on that point.

But don't expect Apple to support it if you do.

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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:25 am

Guest wrote:
Tiger wrote:
Jailbreak. Next thing you know, you'll be advocating counterfeiting. It's nothing more than stealing.

Same as if I repost this column with my byline on it.

stealing from who?

myself?

it's my phone. i paid for it. if i want to open it up and modify it or use it for a doorstop i paid for the priviledge.

just to define terms, to qualify for stealing you have to take something from someone (who rightfully owns it) without compensation. i think my $600 and 2 yr att contract covers me on that point.

If you unlock your phone then you are "breaking your agreement with AT&T." By doing this you are knowingly violating said agreement and contract. Maybe it is not stealing in your eyes but it does make you a liar.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:29 am

Jailbreaking alone is NOT the same thing as unlocking the "baseband" of the phone. Jailbreaking allows you to have write-access to the phone's operating system. While this does permit one to install software for the purposes of unlocking, jailbreaking alone really has nothing to do with one's agreement with AT&T, nor does it constitute the owner of a jailbroken phone as a "liar".

To put it more bluntly, if you don't know what you're talking about, please stay in your own corner-- just because I've installed a native tip calculator on my iPhone doesn't mean I'm going to AT&T hell.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:56 am

Guest wrote:
Jailbreaking alone is NOT the same thing as unlocking the "baseband" of the phone. Jailbreaking allows you to have write-access to the phone's operating system. While this does permit one to install software for the purposes of unlocking, jailbreaking alone really has nothing to do with one's agreement with AT&T, nor does it constitute the owner of a jailbroken phone as a "liar".

To put it more bluntly, if you don't know what you're talking about, please stay in your own corner-- just because I've installed a native tip calculator on my iPhone doesn't mean I'm going to AT&T hell.

I guess the sentence "If you unlock your phone" was to hard to comprehend? Also if you notice I never mention Jailbreak. I only mention "UNLOCKING A PHONE."

You should invest your money in basic reading comprehension instead of WOW factor technology. I think it may benefit you better when dealing with basic social interaction. To put it more bluntly if you can understand the conversation then raise your hand and ask for assistance or travel to your nearest community college and brush up on your reading. Try to stick with what is relevant instead of mindless slobbering remarks.

I would guess that one that would risk a $400+ device and void their warranty in doing so just to have a "tip calculator" speaks volumes of your lack of education. Multiply the total bill by .20 and you should be fine in calculating a reasonable tip. If you need your PHONE to do that simple math I would really counsel in investing on improving your education.

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What kind of activities will void my warranty?
Apple’s Limited Warranty for iPhone excludes coverage for damage resulting from accident, unauthorized service and unauthorized modifications. Please review the warranty for further details.

UNAUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS = Warranty Void.

Hope that "Tip calculator" was worth voiding your warranty.

Tip Caculator > Product Warranty [shaking head]

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:57 am

You don't enter into an agreement with AT&T when you buy an iPhone, only if you sign up for service. So, whatever you want to do to an iPhone is perfectly fine. With mods like this you are violating Apple's EULA, which means you should not expect free warranty service, but again, this is not illegal, and it is not stealing.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:59 am

Basic reading comprehesion, how about basic understanding of commerce. You do NOT enter into an agreement with the carrier when you buy an iPhone, ONLY when you actually enter into a contract with AT&T. Don't get so antagonistic when you are not fully understanding what you are talking about.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:08 am

Guest wrote:
You don't enter into an agreement with AT&T when you buy an iPhone, only if you sign up for service. So, whatever you want to do to an iPhone is perfectly fine. With mods like this you are violating Apple's EULA, which means you should not expect free warranty service, but again, this is not illegal, and it is not stealing.

In order to "activate your phone and the ipod features" you have to sign a 2 year agreement with AT&T.

Sure you can buy an iPhone and and find some "hack" to try to activate and install other apps.

You also void your warranty and run the risk of having a freshly purchased brick.

The question is why would any sensible person make such a purchase and then risk ruining the device in the first place?

I can see the headlines now

"Man sues Apple because iPhone doesn't work under water!"

uh.... duh?

Why by a phone in the first place if you do NOT want AT&T for two years or a "closed system phone."

[Shaking Head] I guess I am questioning common sense here.

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Sir Harry Flashman said:

member since 08 Feb 2007 with 792 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:21 pm

Guest wrote:
just because I've installed a native tip calculator on my iPhone doesn't mean I'm going to AT&T hell.

This begs the question how much do you tip a native for schlepping your stuff from Fort Zinderneuf to Bhowani Junction?

Seriously, I am going to bide my time. Apple will open up the iPhone to 3rd party aps sooner rather than later.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:40 pm

"unlocking" means two things with the iPhone. You have to "unlock" to modify the file system to add applications (this is known specifically as Jailbreaking). The jailbreak unlock doesn't touch anything AT&T, but it does get reversed and blocked by the 1.1.1 firmware.

Once Jailbroken, the BASEBAND of the phone can itself be unlocked, allowing a non-AT&T SIM to be used. BUT, without the first Jailbreak "unlock", the latter is not likely to be possible, at least from a "software hacking" perspective.

Thing is, I'm not sure anyone has sufficiently explained how unlocking the operating system (not the baseband/SIM) should be construed as turning users into "liars". Throwing around accusations like that just smacks of FUD and only serves to distract from the original post, news of progress being made toward access on the 1.1.1 firmware rev.

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A guest said: (hide)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:41 pm

Why do you care what I do with my iPhone?

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A guest said: (hide)

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:06 am

I threw my iPhone off a Highway overpass and into traffic and there's NOTHING in the documentation that says it's illegal, so there!

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