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Warner Offers DRM-free Music through Amazon

Amazon.com announced on Thursday that music from Warner Music Group is available for download without copy protection through the company's Amazon MP3 music store. Since the tracks are available in MP3 format, they are playable on almost any digital media device, including Apple's iPod.

Music downloads at Amazon MP3 are priced between US$0.89 and $0.99 each, and most albums are priced from $5.99 up to $9.99.

The door to DRM-free music downloads opened when Apple began offering copy protection-free tracks from EMI's library in April. Since then, most labels have begun offering versions of their songs without copy protection, but not at the iTunes Store.

So far, the only other big name player outside of the iTunes Store is Amazon MP3, and Amazon offers its selections without DRM from more labels than Apple. So far, the only label offering copy protection-free music through the iTunes Store is EMI.

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jbruni said:

member since 14 Jul 2006 with 82 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

What really cracks me up about Warner panning the iTunes Store is they miss the whole point. Apple's goal is to move iPods regardless of the source of content. iTMS is only marginally profitable. So, if I buy music from Amazon I'm still going to listen to it in iTunes and/or my iPhone/iPod.

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jimothy said:

member since 04 Jun 2004 with 589 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

The antics of the music labels remind me of the old lady who swallowed the fly. They let Apple sell music online, first only to Mac folks. Then, they saw Apple selling a lot of music (never mind that this earned them a profit), and said, "Oh no! We're losing control! We want to sell "hot" tracks for two bucks, and Apple says no! F*** you, Apple, we're going to let Amazon sell tracks at 89-99¢!" They didn't get the pricing power they wanted, so clearly they're doing this just to spite Apple; they both lose pricing pressure and lose out on customers at the biggest online music seller.

Apple was the fly the labels swallowed; Amazon is the spider they swallowed to catch the spider. When Amazon also refuses to charge double for new tracks, who will be the bird the labels swallow to catch Amazon?

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Well... the fact that some tracks are 89 cents and the more popular tracks are 99 cents reflects exactly what the labels said they wanted, flexible pricing per track. It was only Apple that said, and who knows how accurate they were, that the labels wanted to charge outrageous prices. Also, without knowing what the label's cut is at Amazon compared to iTMS it is impossible to know which is giving them a better deal. Not all songs are at that price too, just the majority of them. So it appears that Amazon is of a like mind with the labels on the fact that not all tracks are of the same value. Heck, they don't sell all books for the exact price, or even the exact same price per page. It's not really possible to say that the labels didn't get what they wanted, at the very least, they now have distribution options. And with DRM free mp3s at low prices, consumers definitely win out in this battle.

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Amazon music store is now better!

Full stock of all drm-free music and lower prices. Apple's itunes/ipod drm lock is now broken! Amazon will soon pass itunes in sales, and ipod sales will also decline now that consumers don't have to pay for an overpriced ipod. Too bad many loyal apple fans got stuck with a big library of drm-infected songs.

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LOL @ the previous poster.

Look at the statistics of users who actually buy their music online. Most don't even buy much online. They get the biggest chunk of music from their CDs. This whole Amazon/iTunes/Microsoft store/fill-in-the blank argument is moot. Yes, at some point this whole situation might change, but right now digital music is simply a filler for people who want one song but don't want to buy the entire crappy album by the most recent "pop-princess-diva-going-psycho-on-tabloids-but-had-that-one-good-song." Instead artists who want to sell albums actually have to, GASP, make the entire album worthy of the consumer's money.

With iTunes, Apple seemed to want to get people downloading songs and paying a reasonable price for them, all while getting the benefit of a craptacular number of mp3 player/computer sales. Guess what? They did just that. At this point Apple could just give songs away, get rid of DRM, and STILL benefit from the fact that most people own an iPod and know the iTunes name. The average user could give 2 cents about which company is selling the newest greatest type of song. They just want to get one or two songs to mix in with their already burned-to-mp3 cd collection for their iPods. People are VERY slow to change. Just look at Microsoft's grip on the OS market. Regardless of arguments for or against their OS, the average user knows the Windows name so continues to use it. Same applies here. As long as Apple doesn't do something really dumb, they are going to be able to coast for a while. Knowing Apple, they will come out with some new reason to want their products in the next year at which point their competition will follow and eventually catch on re-igniting this whole argument again.

So goes product development.

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"Look at the statistics of users who actually buy their music online."

Where did you get yours? Your statements might be accurate, but if you are going to say that the statistics point to these things, it would be nice to actually link to some. Just for the sake of everyone's knowledge, or at least my own.

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http://www.digitalpodcast.com/podcastnews/2007/06/23/itunes-is-number-3-in-music-sales/

That is a link to an article about iTunes being the third biggest music retailer now. HOWEVER, if you look at the pie chart for Q1 2007 you will see that even after these many years and many battles, digital downloads are STILL only 14% or so of music sales. And if you do some research around the web you will see several other NPD reports, among others, that indicate a large chunk of digital sales is still singles.

I'm not saying that digital downloads aren't making some money. Only, that the slice of pie they are fighting over compared to the CD is pretty slim yet. So Apple's success is mainly the integration of both digital music AND digital player. These other folks are simply chasing the music portion. Apple could give up half or three-quarters of the music portion and - as long as people continue to associate mp3 players (amusing since iTunes doesn't even use the mp3 format) with Apple, iPod and iTunes - they'll continue to thrive.

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Intruder said:

member since 07 Jul 2004 with 2936 posts, TMO Mac Specialist, send him a message or view his profile

Anonymous wrote:
Amazon music store is now better!

Full stock of all drm-free music and lower prices. Apple's itunes/ipod drm lock is now broken! Amazon will soon pass itunes in sales, and ipod sales will also decline now that consumers don't have to pay for an overpriced ipod. Too bad many loyal apple fans got stuck with a big library of drm-infected songs.

So many flaws in your argument:

1) What iTunes/iPod DRM lock? Apple never wanted DRM in the first place. They also sell non-DRM music from labels that allow it. iPods can also play several formats that are non-DRM.

3) "ipod sales will also decline now that consumers don't have to pay for an overpriced ipod" - Consumers have always had a plethora of choices for music players in all sizes and prices. Consumers have also had many choices for places to buy their music. Why would this latest development change anything?

4) "Too bad many loyal apple fans got stuck with a big library of drm-infected songs" - The amazing irony of this statement is the fact that the majority of iPods have been sold to WIndows users (who are generally not "loyal Apple fans". DRM-infected? Gee, does it spread? Is the DRM in iTunes music somehow worse than the DRM in Napster's music, or Zune's, or Rhapsody, or whomever signed on with PlaysForSure? Ahh, I forgot. Only Apple is evil for using DRM (which is the least restrictive and easily removed).

Amazon now provides another venue where iPod and non-iPod users alike can purchase music. Good for them.

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1/3) Well, even Apple non-DRM files cannot be played on every player. Not everything supports AAC, MP3 is has much wider support. Not just on little walkman style digital music players, but on CD players, car players, etc. MP3 data CD car players have been around for, man, I don't know but I know that my friend had one back in 2000. So, just because of the format that Amazon is using the files have a greater reach.

4) The DRM in Rhapsody and Yahoo Unlimited Music (not sure about Napster honestly) is different, it is subscription based. People aren't told that they "own" file when that file is heavily restricted in what it can do. However, I agree that all of these DRM schemes suck.

It isn't the best thing for the iPod brand that there is another online store for purchasing tracks to own that has an even longer proven track record and reputation than iTMS. Not in music sales, but in online sales it is a bigger name. Heck, people go there to buy iPods instead of going to Apple. But it is not the end of the world for the iPod either. The fact that the files are supported on more devices than iTMS non-DRM files does make them a more valuable file, so it is a threat to the iTMS. So while AmazonMP3 is a better value for the music, when it comes to walkman style devices, people can use anything that they find to be their player of choice, including the iPod, Creative, Sansa, Cowon and others with Amazon files.

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