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iPhone 3G May be a Profit Magnet

Apple's iPhone 3G my be priced starting at US$199, but that doesn't mean the Cupertino company isn't making any money on the devices. If component cost estimates are accurate, the 3G version of the combination iPod and smartphone could be Apple's most profitable product, according to the Yankee Group's Carl Howe.

Based on industry estimates, Apple's 8GB iPhone 3G could cost the company as little as $100, which makes for a 50 percent gross margin over parts cost, which is about the same as the gross margins on the iPod. If analyst expectations are right, and AT&T is adding in a $200 subsidy, then the iPhone 3G will add a tidy sum to Apple's bottom line.

"In fact, if these numbers are true and the carriers are subsidizing the phone, the iPhone 3G could end up being the most profitable product Apple makes," Mr. Howe said. "But more likely, this means that Apple has a lot more pricing flexibility than analysts have given them credit for."

Since the iPhone 3G won't be available until July 11, no one has been able to disassemble one to get a completely accurate accounting of parts for cost analysis. Based on Apple's penchant for securing favorable component prices, however, current cost estimates probably aren't too far off.

Mr. How added "So what's the takeaway here? It's simple: Apple's 3G phone isn't a loss-leader product needing subsidies to survivie. It's designed to be an Anywhere phone that puts your online life, media, and connections in your pocket, yet be simple enough for your grandma to use."

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Sir Harry Flashman said:

member since 08 Feb 2007 with 792 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

Isn't there more to the pricing of a product than the cost of components? R&D, marketing, tech support staff, and other factors must be factored in before determining the profit.

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Also, don't forget the cost of cocaine. And hookers.

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Sir Harry Flashman said:

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Guest wrote:
Also, don't forget the cost of cocaine. And hookers.

Hell I can hardly afford to huff gasoline

Seriously there is more than the cost of materials in a product and Apple has to recoup those costs before some cloner such as PsyStar offers a $49.99 EyeFone

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Uh guys.

The CARRIERS will be charging the $199 NOT Apple.

Apple will be selling them TO the carriers at OLD LIST, less a discount.

So the OLD 8G was $399 less $50, means that ATT will pay Apple, 350 and SELL it to you for $200, which they will then "make up" over the life of the contract and hopefully more, given that 1/2 will be new ATT customers, enticed in from other existing companies.

And better yet, Apple can book the profits NOW, as sold to the carriers, not amortize them over 24 months as they had been doing.

So...

If apple GETS $350 and it COSTS $100 for them to make, they have a gross margin { before all the other non manufacturing costs } of 250%, which makes this the most profitable thing Apple makes then sells.

Not to mention all the extras, like ME.com at $99 a year, the AppleCare program at $70, and 30% off the top, for any applications purchased through the upcoming iPhone App store.

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gslusher said:

member since 13 Nov 2002 with 2088 posts, unranked, send him a message or view his profile

Guest wrote:
Uh guys.

The CARRIERS will be charging the $199 NOT Apple.

Apple will be selling them TO the carriers at OLD LIST, less a discount.

So the OLD 8G was $399 less $50, means that ATT will pay Apple, 350 and SELL it to you for $200, which they will then "make up" over the life of the contract and hopefully more, given that 1/2 will be new ATT customers, enticed in from other existing companies.

And better yet, Apple can book the profits NOW, as sold to the carriers, not amortize them over 24 months as they had been doing.

Ah, someone who knows the precise details of the contracts between Apple and the carriers, which neither Apple nor any of the carriers has revealed. Care to fill us in?

As for "booking the profits now," probably not. That had little or nothing to do with the ATT contract and everything to do with US corporate accounting laws. In any case, what would the subsidy have to do with it? Apple was selling the iPhone to ATT, etc, before, as well. I'm surprised that someone with your obviously intimate insider knowledge of proprietary corporate information doesn't realize that.

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